I came through the terms with the same question as another recent commenter about the apparent contradiction between section 5.1 and section 8. How can granting Google "a non‑exclusive, perpetual, worldwide and royalty-free right and license to..." do with my works as it will, including the right to (see section 8 - part iii) monetize with advertising--and with no explicit provision made regarding the publicly promised but as yet unspecified revenue-sharing model--equal anything other than transferring all rights to Google and hoping for the best?
I would like to think that section 5.1 is more than just a way for Google to declaim any legal liability regarding content, while conveniently using section 8 to trump any actual assertion of author's rights. And I would like to think that section 8 is overstated in Google's favor in the way of typical contractual boilerplate and in terrible need of revision. I'm convinced that the two sections are contradictory and incompatible. But I'm not a lawyer and maybe there's some difference I don't understand between perpetual license and shared ownership.
On the money side, as this contract stands, Google has promised nothing and could extend the purportedly "generous" revenue-sharing model suggested in a recent press conference to motivate the creation of high-quality content and then reduce, radically change, or completely withdraw the revenue sharing at any time, relative to any individual or whole groups of contributors, while continuing to profit from the advertising at the corporate level, and yet withdrawing the passive residual income a long-time contributor has come to expect and depend upon.
Very few freelance writers have any kind of serious retirement fund. Playing outside the confines of a big corporation keeps us fresh in a certain way, but it also requires us to be especially alert and agile in creating a sustainable living. So I hope this review doesn't seem unduly adversarial. And please correct me if I've misconstrued anything here; otherwise, I'd love to see some emendations to these terms.
When I'm faced with the choice of working on an article that I'll be paid $100-$200 cash for as soon as it's published, and then never paid for ever again -- or working on an advertising-supported knol that will make me probably no more than a few dollars in the first two months of its life, but could contribute to a large passive residual income over time, I would love to have some modicum of certainty to justify my choice toward the latter.
Google, please throw us a line in favor of knowledge. At least let us know all the terms. The very best writers are freelance professionals who build their lives around it or gifted and determined amateurs set to become so.
Works of genius don't spring fully grown from the head of Zeus and don't emerge from the lives of half-concerned hobbyists. Well, at least not very often.
Will the work we contribute in creating the best possible articles entitle the respective authors to a royalty? Any revenue-sharing model that rewards a creator for the license and use of a creative product based on a backend percentage of profits is a royalty, after all. Or will the work we pour into this endeavor be forever underscored with uncertainty, open to alternating currents of caprice and largess? Corporations have a way of playing it awfully safe.
Freelancers, on the other hand, must work without a net, pay their own health insurance premiums, and open a private retirement fund or have none at all. We may love our independence and we may pursue knowledge radically and for its own sake, but we still have to make choices in favor of survival.
The contractual terms which allow Google to terminate a writer for any reason at any time would presumably also allow Google to terminate all payments to that writer, including payments for work already completed. Since there is no salary, no set fee for producing an article, no upfront payment, and only the unwritten promise of some form of profit sharing down the line--it seems that a fantastic contributor could be let go after years of service for nebulous or indecipherable reasons and with no severance pay. This might be especially egregious if the person worked diligently the first year for less than a living wage, and only very gradually achieved a level of compensation commensurate with worth. It would also be egregious if done for editorial reasons synonymous with censorship, representing the exact opposite of the academic freedom that a tenured college professor enjoys to pursue critical thought and express it in the classroom without retaliatory dismissal from a conservative administration. Since this is a knowledge project, I would love to see a better provision, or any provision, for addressing these serious concerns.
As "worst case scenario" as that last paragraph sounds, it's a reasoned reaction to the corporate over-protection built into the current iteration of the Terms of Service. I'm an optimistic person by nature and I love this project so far. Love it. The publishing platform itself is stunning and no doubt required a great investment in research and development. Kudos to Google for that. But offer some recourse to the writer who could become over-invested in this project and then feel unfairly dismissed or stripped of rightful earnings. People in my profession live with a great deal of uncertainty. I hope you won't mind disambiguating some of the terms and specifying the royalty or profit-sharing structure. We trust you to count the clicks and reward author-owners of ad-supported individual knols based on the real numbers. That should be as far as the contributing author has to go on the basis of faith alone.Please support us in functioning as professionals and see this project benefit in terms of consistent high-level contributions from people who know how to research, know how to write, love producing good work, and need to get paid for it.
Best regards,
Mark Vanderpool
Freelance Writer
I would like to think that section 5.1 is more than just a way for Google to declaim any legal liability regarding content, while conveniently using section 8 to trump any actual assertion of author's rights. And I would like to think that section 8 is overstated in Google's favor in the way of typical contractual boilerplate and in terrible need of revision. I'm convinced that the two sections are contradictory and incompatible. But I'm not a lawyer and maybe there's some difference I don't understand between perpetual license and shared ownership.
On the money side, as this contract stands, Google has promised nothing and could extend the purportedly "generous" revenue-sharing model suggested in a recent press conference to motivate the creation of high-quality content and then reduce, radically change, or completely withdraw the revenue sharing at any time, relative to any individual or whole groups of contributors, while continuing to profit from the advertising at the corporate level, and yet withdrawing the passive residual income a long-time contributor has come to expect and depend upon.
Very few freelance writers have any kind of serious retirement fund. Playing outside the confines of a big corporation keeps us fresh in a certain way, but it also requires us to be especially alert and agile in creating a sustainable living. So I hope this review doesn't seem unduly adversarial. And please correct me if I've misconstrued anything here; otherwise, I'd love to see some emendations to these terms.
When I'm faced with the choice of working on an article that I'll be paid $100-$200 cash for as soon as it's published, and then never paid for ever again -- or working on an advertising-supported knol that will make me probably no more than a few dollars in the first two months of its life, but could contribute to a large passive residual income over time, I would love to have some modicum of certainty to justify my choice toward the latter.
Google, please throw us a line in favor of knowledge. At least let us know all the terms. The very best writers are freelance professionals who build their lives around it or gifted and determined amateurs set to become so.
Works of genius don't spring fully grown from the head of Zeus and don't emerge from the lives of half-concerned hobbyists. Well, at least not very often.
Will the work we contribute in creating the best possible articles entitle the respective authors to a royalty? Any revenue-sharing model that rewards a creator for the license and use of a creative product based on a backend percentage of profits is a royalty, after all. Or will the work we pour into this endeavor be forever underscored with uncertainty, open to alternating currents of caprice and largess? Corporations have a way of playing it awfully safe.
Freelancers, on the other hand, must work without a net, pay their own health insurance premiums, and open a private retirement fund or have none at all. We may love our independence and we may pursue knowledge radically and for its own sake, but we still have to make choices in favor of survival.
The contractual terms which allow Google to terminate a writer for any reason at any time would presumably also allow Google to terminate all payments to that writer, including payments for work already completed. Since there is no salary, no set fee for producing an article, no upfront payment, and only the unwritten promise of some form of profit sharing down the line--it seems that a fantastic contributor could be let go after years of service for nebulous or indecipherable reasons and with no severance pay. This might be especially egregious if the person worked diligently the first year for less than a living wage, and only very gradually achieved a level of compensation commensurate with worth. It would also be egregious if done for editorial reasons synonymous with censorship, representing the exact opposite of the academic freedom that a tenured college professor enjoys to pursue critical thought and express it in the classroom without retaliatory dismissal from a conservative administration. Since this is a knowledge project, I would love to see a better provision, or any provision, for addressing these serious concerns.
As "worst case scenario" as that last paragraph sounds, it's a reasoned reaction to the corporate over-protection built into the current iteration of the Terms of Service. I'm an optimistic person by nature and I love this project so far. Love it. The publishing platform itself is stunning and no doubt required a great investment in research and development. Kudos to Google for that. But offer some recourse to the writer who could become over-invested in this project and then feel unfairly dismissed or stripped of rightful earnings. People in my profession live with a great deal of uncertainty. I hope you won't mind disambiguating some of the terms and specifying the royalty or profit-sharing structure. We trust you to count the clicks and reward author-owners of ad-supported individual knols based on the real numbers. That should be as far as the contributing author has to go on the basis of faith alone.
Best regards,
Mark Vanderpool
Freelance Writer



Murry Shohat
Thumbs up to Mark
I am also deeply troubled by the massive plagiarism being perpetrated by several "authors" who think they can monetize the terms of service without an original thought. These people are addressing profit sharing by diversion. These cut-and-paste plagiarizers have co-opted thousands of Knols. They write nothing. They copy everything from other websites. They earn badges and awards from a dumb algorithm they've learned how to beat.
As Mark encourages Google to arrive at even-handed terms of service, I further encourage Google to drive out the plagiarizers and reward the contributors of genuine units of knowledge.
Arvind Kumar
Mostly Medical Publications on Knol due to this
If you would have noticed mostly Medical Articles which may not get published in journals or do not get money by the Medical Journals can be seen here. There is no money to lose there. And of course people who depend on the money which they make from publishing their articles will and should avoid till Google comes clear of these biases in its favour.
Regards,
Arvind
I have noticed the proliferation of medical articles, although it wasn't foremost in my mind as I reviewed the terms of service. You make very good points about the "nothing to lose" aspect of using the Knol platform as a secondary avenue for publishing articles of this kind.
Clearly, Google launched an initiative to draw in such material prior to the public launch. What are the odds so many beta testers would be physicians? It's a good way to stock the shelves with the work of credible authorities in a respected field, well before the public shows up.
No practicing M.D.'s are losing any sleep over the dollar value in an article, of course, and aren't even accustomed to associating one. It's maybe just a reputation builder, or something, for a professional from another field, and not significantly different from the mandatory writing they paid to do as students. I hope this project eventually draws a greater diversity of material, as well as addressing the needs of freelance professionals with a finer acuity.
Thanks for your input.
Best regards,
Mark
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Jim Lapic
Any response?
Please share when (if?) you receive a response. I fear that what "I would like to think" and what will really happen might just not exist in the same universe.
Thanks,
Jim
Since I have presented my concerns in the form of an open letter, I fully expect any response I get will likewise be appended here for public consumption. Rest assured that if I do receive any private response from a Google administrator by e-mail, I will ask for permission to post it here, or I'll ask the answering party if they will please make the response public for us themselves. Transparency or accountability is the full thrust of my intention here.
Thank you for continuing the conversation.
Mark
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